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            Post subject: CCR namiesto Linux GW 
             Posted: 24.05.2014 - 21:23 #106560
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            Basic 
            
  
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          Nazdar.
 
 
Momentalne je moja hlavna gw linux. Je to HP server ktory uz bezi cca 5 rokov a je otazka casu kedy klakne (mozno mesiac mozno rok ktoho vie) a preto si robim zalozny stroj. Rozhodol som sa zakupit Mikrotik CCR a nastavit ho, odlozit do skladu a nech tam stoji.
 
 
Mal by som 3 otazky ako to spravne nakonfigurovat.
 
 
Otazka c.1 a to DNS: Na linuxe mam nastavene : 1: 127.0.0.1, 2: 8.8.8.8 a tretiu OPENDNS ip. Je potrebne aj na MK nastavit prve 127.0.0.1?
 
 
Otazka c.2 NAT 1:1: Na UPLINKU som nastavil IP adresu a na LAN IP adresu tak ako mam aj na linuxe. Ak chcem nastavit 1:1 NAT davam SNAT a DNAT ale je potrebne pridat aj danu verejnu IP adresu na ten port co je uplink t.j. port na uplink bude mat cca 30 adries?Tolko kolko mam verejnych IP prenatovanych na lokal? A nakoniec dam masquerade?Nebude sa bit ak dam 1:1 na jednu lokalnu IPadresu a zaroven aj 1:subnet co je aj lokalna z neho?
 
 
Otazka c.3 FW: Ake hlavne pravidla mate na MK? Na Inpute bloknem vsetko a povil napr. iba pre Winbox a na forward ake pravidla? Zatial som dal iba klasicke blok 135-139, 25 a nejake este na virusy. Davate nieco ine? 
 
 
Dik za radu. | 
         
        
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            Post subject: RE: CCR namiesto Linux GW 
             Posted: 25.05.2014 - 09:47 #106561
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            Basic 
            
  
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          odporucam mat nejaky samostatny stroj na DNS , napr. bind
 
1 - tam ho nastavis, 127.0.0.1 netreba aj ked mas CCR ako DNS resolver 
 
2 - verejna ktora sa natuje nemusi byt na uplinku, ja ju mam na bridgi bez portov nazvanom loopback,samozrejme musi byt naroutovana na tvoj CCR cez ipcku na uplinku 
 
srcnat mozes spravit na tu istu takisto aj masquerade, bit sa to nebude.
 
3 - ak budes mat CCR ako dns server,treba hlavne bloknut INPUT DNS UDP port 53 na uplinku , a ja este  k tomu menim defaultne porty ssh , ftp , atd - nepotrebujem mat logy plne sprostosti | 
         
        
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            Post subject: RE: CCR namiesto Linux GW 
             Posted: 27.05.2014 - 17:52 #106583
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            Ucen 
            
  
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          1. Mikrotiku ako DNS pre celu siet sa radsej vyhni. Ja som po prehodeni GW z linuxu na MK mal pekny pruser s DNS. Niekomu to islo OK, niekomu nenacitavalo fb a podobne. Doteraz som neprisiel na to preco, ale DNS mi bezi pekne po starom na binde a nieje problem.
 
 
3. na inpute si povol full z menezovacich IP/subnetov, dalej established,related, icmp, DNS reply a vsetko ostatne DROP, nic viac nepotrebujes
 
-na forwarde podla potreby, ako pises SMTP a win bordel, pripadne zakazat smerom von destination privatne IP a z vnutra zasa traffic z inych rozsahov ako realne pouzivas | 
         
        
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            Post subject: RE: CCR namiesto Linux GW 
             Posted: 29.05.2014 - 19:54 #106591
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          Quote: › 2   ;;; Drop invalid connections
 
     chain=input action=drop connection-state=invalid 
 
 
 3   ;;; Port scanners to list 
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list protocol=tcp psd=21,3s,3,1 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 
 4   ;;; NMAP FIN Stealth scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list 
 
     tcp-flags=fin,!syn,!rst,!psh,!ack,!urg protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 
 5   ;;; SYN/FIN scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list tcp-flags=fin,syn protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 5   ;;; SYN/FIN scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list tcp-flags=fin,syn protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 
 6   ;;; SYN/RST scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list tcp-flags=syn,rst protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 
 7   ;;; FIN/PSH/URG scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list 
 
     tcp-flags=fin,psh,urg,!syn,!rst,!ack protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 
 8   ;;; ALL/ALL scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list 
 
     tcp-flags=fin,syn,rst,psh,ack,urg protocol=tcp address-list=port scanners 
 
     address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 9   ;;; NMAP NULL scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list 
 
     tcp-flags=!fin,!syn,!rst,!psh,!ack,!urg protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 
10   ;;; dropping port scanners
 
     chain=input action=drop src-address-list=port scanners 
 
 
11   ;;; suppress DoS attack
 
     chain=input action=tarpit protocol=tcp src-address-list=black_list 
 
     connection-limit=3,32 
 
 
12   ;;; detect DoS attack(10 connections/ip from internet)
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=black_list address-list-timeout=1d in-interface=ether1 
 
     connection-limit=10,32 
 
 
13   ;;; DOS attack protection(50 connections/ip)
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=black_list address-list-timeout=1d connection-limit=50,32 
 
14   ;;; drop ssh brute forcers
 
     chain=input action=drop protocol=tcp src-address-list=ssh_blacklist 
 
     dst-port=22 
 
 
15   chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list connection-state=new protocol=tc>
 
     src-address-list=ssh_stage3 address-list=ssh_blacklist 
 
     address-list-timeout=1w3d dst-port=22 
 
 
16   chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list connection-state=new protocol=tc>
 
     src-address-list=ssh_stage2 address-list=ssh_stage3 
 
     address-list-timeout=1m dst-port=22 
 
 
17   chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list connection-state=new protocol=tc>
 
     src-address-list=ssh_stage1 address-list=ssh_stage2 
 
     address-list-timeout=1m dst-port=22 
 
 
18   chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list connection-state=new protocol=tc>
 
     address-list=ssh_stage1 address-list-timeout=1m dst-port=22 
 
19   ;;; drop ssh brute downstream
 
     chain=forward action=drop protocol=tcp src-address-list=ssh_blacklist 
 
     dst-port=22 
 
 
20   ;;; Allow Broadcast Traffic
 
     chain=input action=accept dst-address-type=broadcast 
 
 
21   ;;; smtp(e-mail)
 
     chain=input action=accept protocol=tcp src-port=25 
 
 
22   ;;; vpn(gre)
 
     chain=input action=accept protocol=gre 
 
 
23   ;;; ping
 
     chain=input action=accept protocol=icmp 
 
 
24   ;;; tcp ports
 
     chain=input action=accept protocol=tcp 
 
     dst-port=22,25,53,1723,2000,7780,8291 
 
25   ;;; udp
 
     chain=input action=accept protocol=udp dst-port=53 
 
 
26   ;;; allow estabilished connections
 
     chain=input action=accept connection-state=established 
 
 
27   ;;; drop everything else
 
     chain=input action=drop in-interface=ether1 
 
 
 
 
tak to mam input...ether1 je uplink, MK mi robi dns | 
         
        
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            Post subject: RE: CCR namiesto Linux GW 
             Posted: 30.05.2014 - 12:40 #106593
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          rado3105 wrote: › Quote: › 2   ;;; Drop invalid connections
 
     chain=input action=drop connection-state=invalid 
 
 
 3   ;;; Port scanners to list 
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list protocol=tcp psd=21,3s,3,1 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 
 4   ;;; NMAP FIN Stealth scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list 
 
     tcp-flags=fin,!syn,!rst,!psh,!ack,!urg protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 
 5   ;;; SYN/FIN scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list tcp-flags=fin,syn protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 5   ;;; SYN/FIN scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list tcp-flags=fin,syn protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 
 6   ;;; SYN/RST scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list tcp-flags=syn,rst protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 
 7   ;;; FIN/PSH/URG scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list 
 
     tcp-flags=fin,psh,urg,!syn,!rst,!ack protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 
 8   ;;; ALL/ALL scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list 
 
     tcp-flags=fin,syn,rst,psh,ack,urg protocol=tcp address-list=port scanners 
 
     address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 9   ;;; NMAP NULL scan
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list 
 
     tcp-flags=!fin,!syn,!rst,!psh,!ack,!urg protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=port scanners address-list-timeout=2w 
 
 
10   ;;; dropping port scanners
 
     chain=input action=drop src-address-list=port scanners 
 
 
11   ;;; suppress DoS attack
 
     chain=input action=tarpit protocol=tcp src-address-list=black_list 
 
     connection-limit=3,32 
 
 
12   ;;; detect DoS attack(10 connections/ip from internet)
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=black_list address-list-timeout=1d in-interface=ether1 
 
     connection-limit=10,32 
 
 
13   ;;; DOS attack protection(50 connections/ip)
 
     chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list protocol=tcp 
 
     address-list=black_list address-list-timeout=1d connection-limit=50,32 
 
14   ;;; drop ssh brute forcers
 
     chain=input action=drop protocol=tcp src-address-list=ssh_blacklist 
 
     dst-port=22 
 
 
15   chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list connection-state=new protocol=tc>
 
     src-address-list=ssh_stage3 address-list=ssh_blacklist 
 
     address-list-timeout=1w3d dst-port=22 
 
 
16   chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list connection-state=new protocol=tc>
 
     src-address-list=ssh_stage2 address-list=ssh_stage3 
 
     address-list-timeout=1m dst-port=22 
 
 
17   chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list connection-state=new protocol=tc>
 
     src-address-list=ssh_stage1 address-list=ssh_stage2 
 
     address-list-timeout=1m dst-port=22 
 
 
18   chain=input action=add-src-to-address-list connection-state=new protocol=tc>
 
     address-list=ssh_stage1 address-list-timeout=1m dst-port=22 
 
19   ;;; drop ssh brute downstream
 
     chain=forward action=drop protocol=tcp src-address-list=ssh_blacklist 
 
     dst-port=22 
 
 
20   ;;; Allow Broadcast Traffic
 
     chain=input action=accept dst-address-type=broadcast 
 
 
21   ;;; smtp(e-mail)
 
     chain=input action=accept protocol=tcp src-port=25 
 
 
22   ;;; vpn(gre)
 
     chain=input action=accept protocol=gre 
 
 
23   ;;; ping
 
     chain=input action=accept protocol=icmp 
 
 
24   ;;; tcp ports
 
     chain=input action=accept protocol=tcp 
 
     dst-port=22,25,53,1723,2000,7780,8291 
 
25   ;;; udp
 
     chain=input action=accept protocol=udp dst-port=53 
 
 
26   ;;; allow estabilished connections
 
     chain=input action=accept connection-state=established 
 
 
27   ;;; drop everything else
 
     chain=input action=drop in-interface=ether1 
 
 
tak to mam input...ether1 je uplink, MK mi robi dns  
 
 
 
 
 
takto mas nastaveny FW na hlavnej GW do netu ? DNS normalne kesujes alebo preposielas na DNS server? | 
         
        
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            Post subject: RE: CCR namiesto Linux GW 
             Posted: 31.05.2014 - 12:46 #106601
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          | ano tak to mam...dns cachujem... to su pravidla len pre input...mam tam aj ine... nieco sa ti nezda? | 
         
        
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            Post subject: RE: CCR namiesto Linux GW 
             Posted: 31.05.2014 - 13:18 #106603
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          | Aby som nezakladal novu temu. LOGujete este komunikaciu? Sa cudujem ze teraz teleoff neposlal ziadnu vyzvu na okamzite ukoncenie LOGovania, vedia len okamzite pokuty posielat. | 
         
        
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            Post subject: RE: CCR namiesto Linux GW 
             Posted: 31.05.2014 - 14:41 #106605
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          sef wrote: ›Aby som nezakladal novu temu. LOGujete este komunikaciu? Sa cudujem ze teraz teleoff neposlal ziadnu vyzvu na okamzite ukoncenie LOGovania, vedia len okamzite pokuty posielat. 
 
 
statne organy mozu robit iba to, co maju stanovene zakonom. ma RU zakonom stanovene ze ma poslat vyzvu na ukoncenie logovania? odpoved - nie. | 
         
        
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            Post subject: RE: CCR namiesto Linux GW 
             Posted: 31.05.2014 - 19:47 #106608
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            Basic 
            
  
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          | a pokial viem este to nieje v platnosti, ale v takom divnom stave kedy to caka na vydanie smernice alebo nariadenia.. | 
         
        
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            Post subject: RE: CCR namiesto Linux GW 
             Posted: 01.06.2014 - 13:53 #106613
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            Ucen 
            
  
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          sef wrote: ›Aby som nezakladal novu temu. LOGujete este komunikaciu? Sa cudujem ze teraz teleoff neposlal ziadnu vyzvu na okamzite ukoncenie LOGovania, vedia len okamzite pokuty posielat. 
 
 
co mas na mysli pod logovanim spojeni? ved destination adresy logovat nemozes, "narusil" by si telekomunikacne tajomstvo
 
 
ked chcu, viem im dat zoznam privat IP schovanych pod kazdou public IP a cest praci.. | 
         
        
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