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Robert
Post subject: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 10:09 #46847
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Vela prispievatelov do tohto fora pouziva Mikrotik. Zaujima ma, ci pouzivate aj NStreme a ake su s nim skusenosti.

Vcera som stravil niekolko hodin experimentovanim s trasou prestavanou na Mikrotik (RB532A). Na MK su vybudovane dva skoky - 3,5km a 13,5km.

V rezime NStreme mi to fungovalo len v rezime AP <-> station, pripadne bridge <-> station. Musel som mat vsak zapnute WDS, aby sa to spravalo transparentne.

Ked som prehodil dlhsi skok do rezimu Nstreme, zacali velmi lietat odozvy a priepustnost bola velmi uboha - cca 3-4mbit/s. Po zapnuti volby "polling" to zacalo chodit ako delo. Nie je mi jasne, preco je "polling" potrebny. Mal som za to, ze tato volba je pre p2mp topologiu. Predpokladam, ze "polling" je urcite rozsirenie funkcionality Nstreme a bez Nstreme nefunguje.

Kratsi skok sa mi bo Nstreme nepodarilo sprevadzkovat. Po prepnuti na Nstreme, bez ohladu na "polling" zacali nenormalne lietat odozvy a na moje prekvapenie sa zacal sypat aj ten dlhy skok. Akokeby sa cosizacalo generovat do ethernet-u. Zataz CPU v tomto stave sa mi neporadilo pomerat, lebo jednoducho nebolo mozne sa do zariadeni rozumne dostat. Obcas tento epilepticky zachvat pominul a dostal som sancu prepnut to spat. Kratsi skok som nakoniec dal do rezimu "bridge" na obcoh stranach. Vzhladomna kratku vzdialenost je priepustnost dostatocna aj bez Nstreme.

V konecnomdosledku sa podarilo vyrazne zvysit prepustnost trasy. Floodovanim dlhymiUDP paketmi sa mi podarilo pretlacit az 19-21mbit/s HD, co v pripade WLA5000AP nepripadalo do uvahy. V realne prevadzke vidim 13-18mbit/s podla okolnosti. Zatial vsetko bezi v rezime bridge. Routovaniu sa vyhybam, lebo pre mna je MK len datapumpa, ostatne veci si chcem riesit na Slackware.
 
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Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 14:19 #46889
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na 2x PC 733 MHz a 256 MB ram mi pri zapnutom nstreme a pollingu dava na udp 19-20 mbit/s full duplex, na tcp okolo 35-37 mbit/s half duplex. spoj je vo wds mode.
 
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icerowicz
Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 14:19 #46890
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dano, na aku vzdialenost ? a mas v tych mk po dva karty ?
 
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Chalan
Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 14:37 #46900
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neplette si nstreme a dual nstreme
 
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Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 14:40 #46903
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jj, uz mi to doslo , len co som sa nalogoval do MK Smile
 
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Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 14:49 #46904
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1.5 km, 1 karta cize nstreme, NIE nstreme dual, v turbo mode to pustalo 2x tolko, cize 80 mbit/s hd na UDP
 
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Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 14:59 #46905
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njn a ako bonus k tomu zasralo cele pasmo Very Happy
 
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Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 15:15 #46910
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Quote: › spoj je vo wds mode

Co znamena, ze spoj je vo WDS rezime? Ten sa da nahodit roznymi sposobmi.
 
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Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 15:18 #46913
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pravdepodobne na kartach wds station oproti sebe.
 
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Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 15:24 #46920
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wds ma zmysel robit len ak z toho chces bridge...
 
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Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 16:27 #46939
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Quote: › pravdepodobne na kartach wds station oproti sebe

WDS station proti sebe asi nepojde. Taky rezim asi na druhej strane potrebuje AP alebo aspon bridge.
Dve karty v rezime bridge (a zapnutom WDS) proti sebe idu.

Mam vsak nebyvale problemy s transparentnostou akehokolvek bridge na MK. Dochadza k takemu javu, ze niektore pocitace sa navzajom nevidia, resp. je medzi nimi velka stratovost. Pritom oba tieto pocitace bez problemu pristupuju do Internet-u. Skontroloval som ARP tabulky, tabulky hostov na MK a nenasiel som problem. Jedine, co bolo divne, niekedy sa v host tabulke na chvilu zmenilo rozhranie, cez ktore je dany pocitac dostupny, napr. standardne tam bolo ether1 (spravne) a obcas tam prebliklo wlan1 (nezmysel).

Mozno by pomohol routovaci rezim, ale ked mam medzi dvomi Linux routrami trasu o troch skokoch a teda 6 RB (jeden RB by neutiahol dve 5GHz karty), nie je dost dobre mozne mat 6 routrov.
 
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Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 16:31 #46943
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daj len jednu ip bridgeu... nenastavuj ip dalsim rozhraniam ktore v tom bridge su...
 
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Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 18:39 #46952
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Quote: › daj len jednu ip bridgeu... nenastavuj ip dalsim rozhraniam ktore v tom bridge su...

Toto je elementarna vec, ktoru odjakziva dodrzujem. Podozrenie mam skor na to, co vlastne ma byt v bridge. Nas technik tam dal WLAN aj WDS. Ked som vsak skusil odstranit WLAN, dostal som sa do problemov. Tazko sa s tym experimentuje, ked je to v ostrej prevadzke. Ocakaval by som, ze v bridge staci WDS, cez ktory vlastne data tecu.
 
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Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 18:53 #46953
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Robert wrote: ›
Quote: › daj len jednu ip bridgeu... nenastavuj ip dalsim rozhraniam ktore v tom bridge su...

Toto je elementarna vec, ktoru odjakziva dodrzujem. Podozrenie mam skor na to, co vlastne ma byt v bridge. Nas technik tam dal WLAN aj WDS. Ked som vsak skusil odstranit WLAN, dostal som sa do problemov. Tazko sa s tym experimentuje, ked je to v ostrej prevadzke. Ocakaval by som, ze v bridge staci WDS, cez ktory vlastne data tecu.


nie, wlan + ether daj do bridge, hlavny ide na ap-bridge + zapni wds, druhy je wds-slave zapnute wds na druhom takisto v bridge je wlan+ether
 
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Post subject: RE: Nstreme  PostPosted: 28.02.2007 - 18:57 #46954
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icerowicz wrote: ›njn a ako bonus k tomu zasralo cele pasmo Very Happy

v turbe to zozerie iba 40MHz (a vyslovne to zakazane nie je)
 
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