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Opticka zvaracka

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7 Post subject: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 29.09.2017 - 11:16 #113069
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Potreboval by som kludne aj zanovnu 3D zvaracku na zopar desiatok zvarov rocne, cize zase nic drahe zbytocne.
Kde nakupit, pripadne znacka, preco, za a proti a pod.
Kto ma skusenosti, pripadne sa chce zbavit niecoho, co mi nejaky ten rok dva este posluzi na obcasne zvaranie?
 
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Post subject: RE: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 30.09.2017 - 10:32 #113070
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cinsku zvaracku kupis novu za par supov

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Fusion Splicer TCW-605E
(Equal to Fujikura FSM-60S, Sumitomo Type-39 etc, with fiber cleaver)
Average splicing loss: 0.01dB MM/0.02dB SM (standard measure)
Typical splicing time: 8s, typical heating time:30s, return loss > 60dB
Quantity:1-9pcs US$1,200.00/pc
Quantity:10-99pcs US$1,000.00/pc

OTDR TW2100E(30/28dB)
Quantity: 1-9pcs US$1,000.00/pc
Quantity:10-99pcs US$800.00/pc

Power Meter TW3208E
Quantity: 1-49pcs US$50.00/pc
Quantity: 50-499pcs US$40.00/pc

Laser Source TW3109E
Quantity: 1-29pcs US$100.00/pc
Quantity: 30-299pcs US$80.00/pc

FOB Shanghai
Freight to Slovakia by Air
US$250.00/pc for Fusion Splicer
US$150.00/for OTDR
US$30.00 for OPM or OLS
 
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Post subject: RE: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 30.09.2017 - 11:10 #113071
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Otazka je, ze za takuto cenu radsej nejst do 2D zvarackynapr https://www.wifi-shop.cz/svarecka-optic ... 8993.html.
Predsa len pripadna reklamacia, ci servis...
A este stale vaham, ci nejst cestou gelov a spojok, polka ludi na to nadava, zvysok si to zase chvali, ze je to funkcne...tak neviem.
Na jednej strane chapem vyhody zvarania, na druhej ak by gel, lepidlo, ci fiberlock po rokoch vykazoval nejake chyby vzdy tam budem mat nahradne vlakno a keby aj dokazem povodne vlakno znovu "zalepit". Pri spojoch v maxime 100-200m by s tym snad problem vo vyssom utlme byt nemal.
 
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Post subject: RE: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 30.09.2017 - 12:40 #113072
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ja som kupoval cinsku 3D pred par rokmi a spokojnosta a to uz tam idem cez 4000zvarov bez problemu, ja osobne som 2d zvarackou nezvaral ale ked vidim na svojej 3d ako casto smeruje horizonatalne aj vertikalne tak neviem neviem...dostane sa ti nejaky prach pod tie holdery a uz to bude podla mna vyosene. a pri dnesnych cenach zvaracky by som neuvazoval o fiberlockoch. ale na 100 - 200 m p2p ti pojde aj ked noznicami odstihnes a das do spojky... konvertor to na taku vzdialenost presvieti, dokonca SC konektor nemusi byt uplne ani zastrceny ked na konvertore uz svieti link act. takze na taku vzdialenost ti bude fungovat aj spojka aj keby gel vyschol
 
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Post subject: RE: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 30.09.2017 - 15:18 #113073
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Otazka nakupu z CIny je aj ta ako je to s clom a dph...cena moze byt suce okolo 1000 eur, ale celkova cena potom moze byt kludne aj 1500 a podla mojich skusenosti uz chytaju skoro vsetko.
Pokial Cinan nema pobocku v EU (ako mi naposledy poslal tovar z NL) tak je skoro iste, ze sa vysledna cena vyrazne zdvihne.
Neviem som na pochybach, na jednej strane to musi u zakaznika fungovat ok, na druhej strane spravim mu 30 zvarov a co dalej so zvarackou, ked iny isty kseft zatial nemam.
 
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Post subject: RE: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 30.09.2017 - 16:41 #113074
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clu sa nevyhnes, ale mozes sa dohodnut s cinanom aby ti prilozil fakturu na napr. 300USD a ztoho ti vypocitaju clo, ale to si potom das tolko aj do nakladov, poplatky su plus minus v hodnote dph. DHL si berie tusim dalsich cca 10eur za vybavovanie cla, za prevod cez napr western union to bude dalsich cca 50eur
 
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Post subject: RE: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 30.09.2017 - 23:05 #113075
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Odkial si vyhrabal tu Cinu...ja ju vidi za 2-3k na nete len. Na Ali uz nie je a inde ju maju draho. Na Ali ma najlepsie hodnotenie za rozumnucenu asi toto https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Sh ... 62.tHs1ll.
 
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Post subject: RE: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 30.09.2017 - 23:25 #113076
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to som dostal pred 5 dnami ponuku mailom

tu je cely mail

The BEST PRICE of 2017 as following,

Fusion Splicer TCW-605E
(Equal to Fujikura FSM-60S, Sumitomo Type-39 etc, with fiber cleaver)
Average splicing loss: 0.01dB MM/0.02dB SM (standard measure)
Typical splicing time: 8s, typical heating time:30s, return loss > 60dB
Quantity:1-9pcs US$1,200.00/pc
Quantity:10-99pcs US$1,000.00/pc

OTDR TW2100E(30/28dB)
Quantity: 1-9pcs US$1,000.00/pc
Quantity:10-99pcs US$800.00/pc

Power Meter TW3208E
Quantity: 1-49pcs US$50.00/pc
Quantity: 50-499pcs US$40.00/pc

Laser Source TW3109E
Quantity: 1-29pcs US$100.00/pc
Quantity: 30-299pcs US$80.00/pc

FOB Shanghai
Freight to Slovakia by Air
US$250.00/pc for Fusion Splicer
US$150.00/for OTDR
US$30.00 for OPM or OLS


Warranty : 1 year for whole equipment( price add 15%,extend to 3 Years)
Payment:100% in advance by T/T
Delivery: within 7 days upon receipt of advance.
Validity: within 30 days

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Post subject: RE: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 18.10.2017 - 10:02 #113101
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cize zvaracka 1tis a dovoz 250? co je 1250+dph a clo... co su tie ostatne polozky? treba to k tomu?
 
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Post subject: RE: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 19.10.2017 - 16:11 #113108
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na cene prepravneho by som este s cinanom vyjednaval, ale to je jedno.

musis si vzyiadat EORI cislo a podpisat koncesianorasku zmluvu s prepravcom ak este nemas. (staci s kazdym prepravcom iba raz).

potom budes vediet objednavat z ciny.

S cinanom sa vzdy da dohodnut aku fakturu ti ma prilozit k baliku.

colny urad uz zvycajne v predstihu si bude u teba overovat ci je faktura prilozena k baliku spravna, (staci im napisat mailom ze potvrdzujes spravnost alebo posles cestne prehlasenie)

z tej sumy bude colny urad vypocitavat colny dlh co je plus minus 20% (to uz obsahuje aj DPH aj clo)

za vybavovanie cla si prepravca uctuje nejake percenta alebo minimalne 10eur (DHL)

dalsi poplatok je uz iba za prevod penazi do ciny. ja najcastejsie pouzivam western union. ale pozor ak posielas hotovost je to dost drahe (prevod cca 1000eur je za 50eur)
ja som minule posielal cez western union online cez web a stalo ma to iba 4,90eur
 
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Post subject: RE: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 20.10.2017 - 08:36 #113110
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ahoj, clo je 3-11 percent zalezi na type tovaru a 20 percent je DPH tato sa pocita z ceny tovaru plus prepravne cize ta zvaracka vyjde na 1500 plus clo co moze byt max 1665eur. Co sa dokladu tyka nie je to take jednoduche ze staci povedat ze faktura od cinana je korektna. Odomna ziadali vypis z uctu alebo z paypalu aby videli ci som naozal poslal tolko penazi... Ja som sa ale pytal na tieto polozky

OTDR TW2100E(30/28dB)

Power Meter TW3208E

Laser Source TW3109E

OTDR je samotna zvaracka predpokladam, tie ostatne dve polozky su vsak co? nahradne diely alebo veci co k tej zvaracke nutne potrebujes? a za kolko sa da kupit u nas zvaracka s podobnymi parametrami?
 
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Post subject: RE: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 20.10.2017 - 08:54 #113111
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OTDR nie je zvaracka Smile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_t ... lectometer
 
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Post subject: RE: Opticka zvaracka  PostPosted: 20.10.2017 - 08:59 #113112
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Chalan wrote: ›ahoj, clo je 3-11 percent zalezi na type tovaru a 20 percent je DPH tato sa pocita z ceny tovaru plus prepravne cize ta zvaracka vyjde na 1500 plus clo co moze byt max 1665eur. Co sa dokladu tyka nie je to take jednoduche ze staci povedat ze faktura od cinana je korektna. Odomna ziadali vypis z uctu alebo z paypalu aby videli ci som naozal poslal tolko penazi... Ja som sa ale pytal na tieto polozky

OTDR TW2100E(30/28dB)

Power Meter TW3208E

Laser Source TW3109E

OTDR je samotna zvaracka predpokladam, tie ostatne dve polozky su vsak co? nahradne diely alebo veci co k tej zvaracke nutne potrebujes? a za kolko sa da kupit u nas zvaracka s podobnymi parametrami?



odomna este nevyzadovali vypis z uctu nikdy ale mozes rozdelit platbu na dvakrat aby si mal potvrdenku. a clo som potom mal asi len 3% vydy, lebo sta to vzdy pohybovalo okolo 20%


OTDR nie je zvaracka ale reflektomer

Fusion Splicer TCW-605E je zvaracka

a toto su rozpisane prepravne naklady pre jednotlive komponenty.

Freight to Slovakia by Air
US$250.00/pc for Fusion Splicer
US$150.00/for OTDR
US$30.00 for OPM or OLS
 
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